Jamie Leibert (Captain Manicorn) and Sandra Zinovyev sat down with Jason Moore of Zero to Travel for one of the rawest interviews they've given. This episode covers the full arc - from childhood trauma and hitting rock bottom, through 4 years in federal prison, to the Battling Monsters mission that became the Battling Monsters program and Just Care More nonprofit.
Trigger Warning: This episode discusses drug use, addiction, and suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling, visit justcaremore.org/get-help.
What They Covered
The Story They Told
Jamie and Sandra's conversation with Jason Moore goes beyond the adventure. It starts where most stories end - after the conviction, after the cell door closes, after the life you built falls apart. Jamie spent 4 years in federal prison. What came out of that wasn't immediately a Battling Monsters mission. It was a slow, honest rebuilding.
Sandra brings her own thread to the conversation - her history with anxiety, her passion for animal welfare (which spawned #FeedAStrayADay), and what it actually means to follow your own dreams when you're building them alongside someone else's.
This episode is also where Jamie explains the five steps to success he developed through the Battling Monsters framework - and what happens when you reach your dream and it doesn't feel the way you expected.
Host: Jason Moore
Published: July 18, 2023